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1. The Linux Users' Group of Victoria
LUV is an acronym for the Linux Users of Victoria, an incorporated not-for-profit group for Victorian people interested in the free operating system Linux. Based in Melbourne, Victoria (Australia), it is our aim to encourage, promote and support the use of Linux within the Victorian community. The members of LUV can be of any age and computing experience level, and non-Linux users who just want to learn more about Linux or socialise with other computer users are more than welcome. LUV is one of the many Australian Linux users groups. LUV was formed in June 1993, with the first meeting held in July 1993. More information about LUV can be found at the LUV web site: http://www.luv.asn.au/.
LUV offers four main avenues of support to local Linux users:
There is no joining fee to become a LUV member. Membership of the luv-announce mailing list indicates that you are a member of LUV. At last count, there were over 1000 members of the luv-announce mailing list. To join the LUV mailing list(s), join our Mailman mailing system via the web page at http://lists.luv.asn.au/ and then subscribe to the luv-announce list. Once your subscription to luv-announce is approved, you will be able to join any of the other lists when you like. We prefer our members to live in Victoria, Australia, so that they are able to attend meetings and other gatherings, however it is not a requirement, and a number of our members currently reside overseas or interstate. If you live on the opposite side of the world, there is also our "twin" LUG, Victoria Linux Users Group (VLUG) in British Columbia, Canada.
2. Who is who?
The latest LUV committee list can always be found on The Committee Page. The LUV committee can be contacted via e-mail at luv-ctte (at) luv (dot) asn (dot) au.
The mailing list admin can change at any time, and each individual list has it's own list owner(s) who are responsible for the list. The master list administrator can be contacted via email at listadmin (at) luv (dot) asn (dot) au. The web site can also change at any time, and various subsections of the LUV site are maintained by various people. You can contact the current web admin at webadmin (at) luv (dot) asn (dot) au)
3. The monthly meetings?
LUV has a monthly meeting, which is usually held on the first Tuesday of the month, except in:
Meetings are currently held at The Buzzard Lecture Theatre. Evan Burge Building. Trinity College Main Campus. Parkville. Melways Map: 2B C5. Notes: Trinity College's Main Campus is located off Royal Parade. The Evan Burge Building is located near the Tennis Courts. Maps of Trinity and the surrounding area (including its relation to the city) can be found at: http://www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au/map/. People sometimes get together for curry before and pasta after the meetings.
4. The LUV mailing lists
There are four main LUV mailing lists:
People are more than welcome to ask questions on the various LUV mailing lists. Linux questions should go to the luv-main mailing list; if the issue is not related to Linux, then it is probably best posted to the luv-talk mailing list. If you are a beginner, and are not sure where to begin asking questions, then you might want to try the luv-beginners mailing list. If you have a technical Linux question, first check the Linux HOWTOs before asking a question: the HOWTOs are thorough and cover most common Linux problems. Most Linux distributions have the HOWTOs installed - check on the CD-ROM or in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/ - otherwise, use one of the local LDP mirrors. If you still have not found an answer, send your question to luv-main (at) luv (dot) asn (dot) au with the following information:
Most people who post questions have already tried to fix it on their own, and have failed. Or maybe they are just looking for the right place to start; for example, someone may want to do IP-masquerading, but does not know that is what it is called. Even if you think the person asking the question should just "RTFM", they probably need to be told which manual to read! Pointers to man pages, other software documentation, HOWTOs, FAQs, books, mailing lists and web sites are always useful.
4.4.1 Subscribing When you join LUV by filling in the membership form, you will be automatically subscribed to the luv-announce mailing list. You can also choose to subscribe to the other LUV mailing lists at the same time.
4.4.2 Unsubscribing The instructions for unsubscribing from any LUV mailing list are at the bottom of any mail message from the mailing list.
4.4.3 Information overload? If you find there is too much traffic on the various LUV mailing lists for your liking, then you can either:
Members of the LUV mailing lists can view web archives online using our new Mailman mailing list manager, logging in, selecting the list in question and going to it's archives. If you are not on a particular list, you can instantly join any other list as long as you are subscribed to luv-announce. You can then view the archives at your leisure.
LUV now has a web based search system for it's archives. However, to prevent this from being (ab)used by spammers for the collection of email addresses, you will have to log in to Mailman before you can use it. The last time that LUV members were polled for their preference on this topic, the majority did not want a publicly-accessible search engine. If you want to raise this topic again, please discuss it privately with the LUV committee.
Some people would like the LUV mailing lists to include a tag such as [LUV] in the Subject header line, so that it is easy to distinguish LUV mail. If you want to identify your LUV e-mail, you can do it by either filtering your e-mail (with a tool such as procmail) or by using formail to add a [LUV] tag to your mail when it is downloaded. For identification purposes, all LUV lists contain a List-Id: header that uniquely identifies each list. Where possible, this header should be used for all filtering purposes.
Posting to the luv-main and luv-talk lists has been restricted to only those addresses subscribed to the list. This has been implemented to stop Unsolicited Commercial Email (or UCE, commonly referred to as SPAM) being sent to subscribers. Any email address that is not subscribed will be sent to a moderator for approval. If the message does not suit posting to the list it was sent to, it will be rejected. Feedback about the system in place should be directed to the LUV committee.
Keep it polite. Re-read your email before you send it. If you really feel the need to flame someone, please do so in private e-mail, the entire list does not need to know how vehemently you disagree, and it creates a bad atmosphere on the lists.
Setting the Reply-to header adds nothing, and can make it harder to reply to who you really want to. Most mail programs have two ways to reply: reply to sender, or group reply (reply to all). When you are replying to the list (most of the time) use the group reply function. When you only wish to reply to the sender then use just reply to sender. Further reading on this can be found at "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful, Reply-To Munging Considered Useful, and Rick Moen's thoughts, also http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.txt.
Add an Mail-Followup-To: firstname.lastname@example.org header (where listname is the name or the list you are replying to) to your posts, When performing a group reply most mail programs will interpret this as a request to send the response to the list only, and not to the sender as well.
5. SIGs, Installfests and other LUV activities
A SIG is a special interest group, which caters for a specific area of interest to Linux members. The group may be a regional LUV group, or focused on a common technical interest or purely a social group. If you are interested in setting up a SIG, please contact the LUV committee.
Currently, there are the following SIGs within LUV:
LUV holds installfests on an irregular basis, where people bring their personal computers along and can get help, from LUV members, to install Linux. If you have never installed Linux and would like assistance, or you have tried to install Linux and encountered problems, then the installfests are an excellent place to get help. If you have missed an installfest and want help getting Linux installed, then the best solution is to ask for help on the LUV mailing list: someone may be willing to help.
Linux is a multi-user, multi-tasking operating system that runs on many platforms, including Intel processors (386 and higher), DEC Alphas and Power Macintoshes. It implements a superset of the POSIX standard. Linux interoperates well with other operating systems, including Apple MacOS, Microsoft Windows and Novell NetWare. The Linux operating system is freely available - it can be copied and redistributed without fees or royalties. The source code for Linux is available on the Internet to anyone who wants it. Adapted from the Linux Journal. The Linux Documentation Project has extensive information about Linux, including how to obtain, install and use Linux.
6.2.1. Online resources There is a vast collection of Linux resources on the web. Some of the more general Linux information web sites are:
Linux by FTP Linux is a freely distributable operating system, so you can download a Linux distribution, by FTP, from one of the local Linux mirrors, such as those at:
Linux Australia (http://www.linux.org.au/) has a wide variety of local Linux resources. There is an Australian Linux newsgroup: aus.computers.linux. Local Linux consultants are listed in the Australian section of the Linux Consultants Guide. Other Linux/Unix user groups in Melbourne and Victoria include:
In alphabetical order (and with no endorsements), here are some Melbourne-based Linux trainers: